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Voices of the Saghro: Timnaḍin

Very short sung pieces, improvised at celebrations and gatherings, voicing love, absence, criticism and memory. Every text shown here comes from a published source, quoted briefly, with its context and date.

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Ahidous from south-eastern Morocco at the Marrakesh national folklore festival (c. 1970) — Nationaal Museum van Wereldculturen (Tropenmuseum, Amsterdam), CC BY-SA 3.0

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12 texts

Tamnaḍt (pl. timnaḍin)Transmitted orally, collected laterWomen's voicesOral tradition / testimony

Mora at the El Qelâa fold

  1. Idda-d Muγa s areḥbiy n Lqelεa

    Mora came to the fold of El Qelâa,

  2. Istey izamaren izri ulli

    he chose the rams and left the ewes.

EN — SAGHRO working translation, not validated

Collector's Latin notation (ε = ʿayn, γ = ghayn).

Images and metaphors

areḥbiy (l'étable)
The recruitment centre becomes a fold: men are sorted there like livestock.
izamaren / ulli (béliers / brebis)
The vigorous young men are taken; the women and those not selected remain.

Cultural reading

“Muγa” is Félix Mora, recruiter for the Nord-Pas-de-Calais coal mines. The couplet condenses a collective experience: a village emptied of its young men, watched by the women who stay. El Qelâa is Kelaat M'Gouna.

tamnaḍt, pl. timnaḍin

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No authorised recording has been identified for this text. SAGHRO does not fabricate recordings or synthesise any voice.

Collector / editor
Lhoussain Azergui
Collection
avant 2011 · pays aït atta (Sud-Est marocain)
Rights
Text collected, transcribed and translated into French by L. Azergui, quoted briefly for analysis (short-quotation right); read the whole at the source.

⚠ Composed in the 1960s-1970s, at the time miners were recruited for the coal mines of northern France: this text does not date from 1933.

⚠ Performer, exact date and place of collection not given by the source.

Sources — 1 sources cited · 1 independent documentary line(s)

  1. Azergui, 2011 — chant n° 1 de la collecteFull text consulted · Oral tradition
ContextA historian's interpretation

A sung poetry of the South-East

Timnaḍin (also spelt timnadin, timnaddin) are described as very short pieces, often sad and melancholy, improvised at celebrations and gatherings. The examples published by Lhoussain Azergui take the form of couplets: two lines that set up an image, then turn it around.

The form resembles the izli couplet, dominant in the Tamazight poetry of central Morocco, but SAGHRO does not treat the two genres as identical: no consulted study precisely describes the metre of Ait Atta timnaḍin.

Assisted translation, not validated

Sources — 2 sources cited · 2 independent documentary line(s)

  1. Azergui, 2011Full text consulted · Oral tradition
  2. Aoudjit, 2023Full text consulted · Academic research
VoicesOral tradition / testimony

Women's speech

Azergui writes that women sing timnaḍin “away from men's ears” and become “chroniclers” in them: they describe what they see, criticise, mock, advise, and take on the voice of young men to express their fears. Their songs are reduced neither to lament nor to war song: love, humiliation, faith and irony are heard in them.

The sources disagree on whether the genre is exclusively female: Azergui says it is sung “only by women”; Zakia Salime describes it, according to her article's abstract, as produced by women and men. SAGHRO presents both claims.

Assisted translation, not validated

Cautions

⚠ Salime's article could not be read: only its abstract is known.

Sources — 2 sources cited · 2 independent documentary line(s)

  1. Azergui, 2011Full text consulted · Oral tradition
  2. Salime, 2022Bibliographic record only · Academic research
AnalysisA historian's interpretation

Images and devices

In the quoted texts, the sun, the needle, the letter and the bus that carries the men away are addressed directly: apostrophe to nature and everyday objects carries the emotion. The body becomes geography (“my liver has burst” between France, Ouarzazate and Tazarine); society is read through its gestures (the green or red stamp on the chest).

Borrowed words, Fransa, lbaliza (suitcase), lbabur (ship), inscribe history into the language itself: poetry records the new objects of an era.

Assisted translation, not validated

Sources — 1 sources cited · 1 independent documentary line(s)

  1. Azergui, 2011Full text consulted · Oral tradition
Verifiable historyConfirmed by a verified source

A memory of emigration

The timnaḍin collected by Azergui concern the recruitment of miners for the coal mines of northern France by Félix Mora in south-eastern Morocco from the 1960s: selection stripped to the waist, coloured stamps, mass departures of young men. The villages named, El Qelâa (Kelaat M'Gouna), Msemrir, Tazarine, place these songs in Ait Atta country and its surroundings.

These texts therefore do not date from 1933. They show that the genre kept recording the great upheavals families lived through.

Assisted translation, not validated

Sources — 1 sources cited · 1 independent documentary line(s)

  1. Azergui, 2011Full text consulted · Oral tradition
Collective memoryUnverified information

Transmission and change

According to the abstract of Zakia Salime's article, timnaḍin have declined in recent decades with television, schooling and new information technologies, but have been taken up again in contemporary struggles, notably around the Imider mine. Today's musicians also claim the heritage of the songs of 1933 (a creation by the band Meteor Airlines, 2020).

These claims have not yet been verified in the texts. They call for collection work with the poets themselves, and with IRCAM.

Assisted translation, not validated

Sources — 2 sources cited · 2 independent documentary line(s)

  1. Salime, 2022Bibliographic record only · Academic research
  2. Amazigh World News, 2020Bibliographic record only · Moroccan press
MethodConfirmed by a verified source

What remains to be heard

No authorised recording has been identified: a search of the CREM (CNRS) sound archives found nothing for the Saghro or for Imilchil. SAGHRO does not fabricate recordings or synthesise any voice; the player will show a recording as soon as an authorised source becomes available.

Several essential works could not be read: Salime's article (2022), Arsène Roux and Michael Peyron's Poésies berbères de l'époque héroïque (2002), Peyron's study of bards facing the conquest (AWAL, 1996) and his “Izli” entry. They are listed in the library as “record only”.

Assisted translation, not validated

Sources — 4 sources cited · 4 independent documentary line(s)

  1. Salime, 2022Bibliographic record only · Academic research
  2. Roux et al., 2002Bibliographic record only · Academic research
  3. Peyron, 1996Bibliographic record only · Academic research
  4. — « Izli »Bibliographic record only · Academic research